State Reports Says Voluntary Colorado Private Licensing is $70,000 in the Hole

By Paul Simon

Denver Private Investigator Blogger

The misguided venture into voluntary private investigator licensing in Colorado has put the state into an estimated $70,000 hole that would be made up from the state’s general fund in the first year of mandatory licensing, should the measure pass in the legislative before it adjourns early in May.

That shortfall would put the licensing program in the red for the first year but the program would bring in more than it costs the second year, according to a fiscal analysis prepared for the Senate Finance Committee that is scheduled to vote on the bill on Tuesday. Approval would send it to the full Senate for consideration.

Licensing opponents within the profession have been critical of the cost of the voluntary program now in its third year and the impact on those who participate, with fees rising from $340 the first year to $644 and then to $1,094. Critics also object to taxpayers footing the bill for the debt the voluntary program has incurred because fewer investigators participated than had been projected.

The fiscal impact report projects revenue from licensing at $135,950 the first year against costs of $160,482, then revenue the second year at $120,940 vs. costs of $62.134. It also projects adding staff time to the one fulltime staff person allocated to voluntary licensing, to a total of 1.6 FTE to administer the program.

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2 thoughts on “State Reports Says Voluntary Colorado Private Licensing is $70,000 in the Hole

  1. Well now,it appears the license fee if the current bill passes will be $400.00 quite a deal from the $1095.00 for the last fee.

    We can agree the program is $70,000.00 in the red and the money will come from the general fund-as a Colorado taxpayer I am a bit ticked off- anyone else out there feel the same way? But hey, this is government money not yours and lets not forgot how we got there, thank PPIAC and the 2011 Colorado Legislature who was foolish enough to believe their 250 number.

    70 investigators are projected to be employed with an agency and their licensing fee will be $300.00. Who pulled that number from their hip pocket, and better yet, who believes that number?Sounds a bit like the volunteer numbers for licensing. I’m shaking my head,been a pi here for 25 years and I can count the number of agencies on my first 3 fingers and will guess their combined number of pi’s to be no more than 15-how bout you?

    And how bout this-NONE of us in the business don’t even know if we will qualify for a license. Come on man,that dosen’t bother you does it? What moron would go along with that non sense? Those new in the business that are supporting this nonsense will be out of business,I don’t feel a bit sorry for you,I do feel sorry for all that want to get in the business and might not get in because they might not have the required hours,years or decades. But hey,what is a little ‘in the dark’ amongst friends when we are talking about our profession?

    Has the PPIAC membership been made aware of this-you know the cost and the possibility of being legislated out of business as a direct result of your licensing committee who would appear not to be representing your interest? Tell me, you are not gonna let this happen,it is your committe,not that of the rest of us.

    Any question as to why so many groups that are stakeholders were never consulted about all this? I’ve been telling you,but you would not listen and here we are again…

    How bout this,can someone provide me with the number of PPIAC members that had no experience when they got their start here in Colorado as a result of no licensing? I will guess as high as 70%. But hey, as long as they are in the door, believe me, when I tell you this they could care less about the rest of you folks. The CSPI membership of 35, 85% of them will not qualify.

    My prediction-this bill will die in the House,and if not, and actually becomes law, I guess no more than 300 licenses issued and 15 licenses to be issued to agencies-you know all those agencies that employ private investigators.

    Sound like special legislation with the purpose of putting you out of business to me.

    Thank you PPIAC, for abusing your power and authority at the expense of every Colorado private Investigator whether a member or not !!!!!!!!!

    • As an observer from afar, is it just me or is the projected revenue for next year by the Senate Finance Committee based on the same number of investigators who participated in the voluntary licensing to begin with? And if so, what is to prevent any or all of them from not renewing as a result of the increased fees (which will cost more than any other state)?

      Seems rather duplicitous to me.

      P.S. Since I’m generally criticized for residing in another state and having an opinion about Colorado, I’ll (once again) add: I’m a Colorado native who spent the first twenty years of my career as a PI there. I believe that makes my opinion vested.

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